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Scoffer Said,
December 6th, 2009 @12:40 am  

You’re joking? Right? Windows 7 file/folder search is, at least, the most useless bit of an underdeveloped search parameter engine since windows 3.1. Delete Nero and remove the shrapnel with windows 7? Absolutely never. Same with Adobe, Windows Live etc etc etc. YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY C**P WITH WINDOWS 7 SEARCH.

You reckon XP search was useless? XP is probably the best and easiest and fullest configurable data searcher ever.

Thank God I have Windows XP and Windows 7 on different hard drives so I can use XP to search the Windows 7 drive for what I need to find.

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DoINeedOne Said,
December 10th, 2009 @5:50 pm  

I’m having trouble getting Search to work in Win 7 as well as it worked for me in XP. (I don’t need indexing or searching inside files; I merely want to search on file names.) I had a system of naming my files with a certain number of brace characters (ASCII 123, “{“) to mean different things. But if I attempt to search on a brace in Win 7, it returns all files. In XP, if I wanted a list of all files with 3 braces in their names, I entered *{*{*{* in the search box. How do I get that same list in Win 7?

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Max Said,
December 11th, 2009 @4:39 am  

I’m running Windows 7 64 bit and do not see how one can configure:
1. Federated search to index network drives
2. Index outlook 2007 email messages

Any help greatly appreciated.
thx!

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jeff Said,
December 11th, 2009 @1:25 pm  

Add me to the “you’re joking?” list.
I found this page while trying to find help using Windows 7 search. I really trying to get used to the new Windows Explorer, but I found the new search method to be very cumbersome and lacking in features.

I’m trying to search by file type. I can type in the exact filename and it won’t find the file, but enter one or two characters and it works. Arg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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bozo Said,
December 11th, 2009 @6:59 pm  

Scoffer you have nailed it. Windows 7 search is useless. After many hours of trying to find files with Windows 7 search I gave up – the only way to reliably find files in Win 7 is to manually look through all your files. I am going back to XP. XP search works, plain and simple.

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Mam'selle Said,
January 10th, 2010 @2:17 pm  

Add me to the “you’re joking” bandwagon – what took a simple right click and search (and search remained open) has been replaced with another unfriendly series of strokes – Another RIBBON design by Real Idiocy By Bungling Obnoxious Nitwits

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Crow Said,
January 20th, 2010 @1:32 am  

Firmly seated on the “You’re Joking” bandwagon… Have you even *USED* the Win7 search function, or was this little article extolling the wonders of the microsoft machine just a cut-and-paste excerpt from their list of “features”?

If I wanted to find something in XP, i typed in the name. If it couldn’t find it in indexed files in Vista, I click a convenient button to search non-indexed files, for a small price in time spent. Win7 search can’t find a file if I ask it to look for “*.*” and point out the folder it’s in! At least not without digging through cumbersome setup menus to tell search how to function. How is that easier on the casual or confused user? What ever happened to simple first-page screening options – are you looking for a music file? photo? program or folder? modified today, yesterday, April of 2009? Those made things seem pretty simple.

Oh yeah, and here’s a delightful piece of news for you: XP could search any drive attached to your computer too. And they didn’t even have to be pre-indexed.

This, coupled with Win7 blocking me from modifying (even copying) a great number of files (after following Microsoft Help Desk’s instructions to elevate my permissions as an administrator) are sending me running back to XP as fast as I can type C:\format . If I wanted something to censor my searches for what it *THINKS* I should be allowed access, I’d move to China.

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StupidSwede Said,
January 20th, 2010 @9:06 am  

I must be doing somthing wrong. Have had my Windows 7 PC now for 2 weeks and I just cant get it to find my files. I searched for the mail file *.ost and it only found the file if I did the search in the exact folder where file was. That was a very useful search…. nooot.

I tried to find a tool used by vmware and searched for “vmware-vdiskmanager.exe” did the search in the search windows just abow the “start” button, searched on the “Computer” search window, searched in the saved search “Everywhere” nothing found.

Searched in the exact folder where it was and presto it could be found. What do I have to do to just FIND a file? Lots of guides on how to filter your search nothing on how to actually find files. Skip all the content searches just find me the filename! Help?

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NetMage Said,
January 21st, 2010 @10:17 am  

You do know the article is actually wrong, right?

Windows 7 will not index networked locations directly…

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FrankO Said,
January 23rd, 2010 @1:12 pm  

This optimistic article is absurd. Anyone who tries to find a file in Win 7 comes straight up against the plain fact that the search facility is total garbage compared with what was around in XP. It used to be easy, albeit slow, to search for a word inside a document. Now there seems to be no option for this at all. I indexed all the files on my hard drive the way your article says but it’s still a matter of sheer chance whether or not the search window turns up a file.

Aseem, please do a simple scientific test before you write articles telling us how great the Win 7 search facility is. Create a few MSWord files containing unique items of text and save them to various folders around your hard drive. Then see if the search facility can find the files based on a word within them. If I’m wrong that this will fail most times, please explain to me what I’m doing wrong myself since this test has failed many times in my hands.

Windows 7 seems to be the most stable OS Microsoft has come up with yet. Sadly, it’s also the most worthless to users. It offers endless features nobody wants or needs (e.g. glass, 3D displays of files, irritating snapping of windows to full screen if you dare to drag them anywhere near the top of your display) but falls down in a heap on so many elementary useful things (e.g. letting users choose where to put the taskbar, creating undockable toolbars), most particularly the utterly worthless search facility.

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Enrico Said,
February 11th, 2010 @10:21 am  

This article is a sad joke. Windows 7 is by far the worst operating system ever conceived by Microsoft, at least from the usability point of view. The (horrible) new search feature is only one of the literally hundreds of things which worsened a lot since Widows XP.

Windows 7 not only lacks many old time functions, which were disaled or modified, but it is also incredibly packed with absurd interdictions which cannot be switched off or which need system tweaking to get rid of. Microsoft, in your interest, please STOP shooting your own feet!

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rdwray Said,
February 14th, 2010 @9:02 pm  

I have used every version of Windows starting with 3.1 and 7 is the worst I have ever seen. Like many others, I have decided to dump Windows and move to MAC.

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Dwerg Said,
February 18th, 2010 @1:17 am  

wow what a bunch of moaning martyrs.

Despite the fact that all Windows OS’s need to be patched (Service Packs), including Windows 7, it still is the best Windows so far.
Don’t forget XP – which you all seem to love – is on SP3

Search Indexing is an added feature to Search function, which might very well be buggy, the first time it sees a user base, but it’s innovative and smart, and it works on my system.
Ever heard of the whole “GIGO” concept?

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PatrickMc Said,
February 18th, 2010 @8:44 am  

I guess any operating system will have some limitations, and Microsoft can only go so far to provide every functionality. I guess they do their best in providing the most functionality at lowest cost.

For finding and searching files, I have been using biterscripting for a long time (have used it on various Windows releases). Here are a couple of commands that you will find useful.

lf -r -n “*.doc” “C:/somefolder” ($fmtime >= “20100201″)

Will find MS Word files whose modification time is at least Feb 1, 2010.

scr ss_findstr.txt dir(“C:/somefolder”) str(“search string”)

Will list all files that contain the search string “search string”.

The documentations for these are at http://www.biterscripting.com/helppages/lf.html and http://www.biterscripting.com/helppages/SS_FindStr.html .

There is also a good command SS_FindEmailStrs that will find emails containing all of the specified search terms.

Hope this helps.

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KJ Said,
February 27th, 2010 @7:57 am  

I have been using windows since 3.1 also, which likely explains my fondness of windows explorer. I just upgraded my PC, so I am now at Windows 7. I hate windows explorer. I hate the search function. I guess I am going to have to buy a file manager to obtain the functionality I need. Why does MS want everyone to be dependent idiots?

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Pete Said,
March 1st, 2010 @7:50 am  

I’ve read the article and all the comments, but still can’t find any info on searching for file contents. I’ve tried shutting off indexing and turning it on, including a index for C: with contents, but results still turn up empty when searching for text contents withing files that I know exist: ie. text within a PDF or DOC file.

Can anyone help me here? Am I missing something? I had better search capabilities in the DOS days.

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jaY Said,
March 10th, 2010 @10:48 am  

Unlike xp it does not index search network drives for. This search took a step backwards.

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jsps999 Said,
March 14th, 2010 @12:34 am  

I’ll consolidate MY Win7 experiences including Win7’s (belch/spew) absolutely useless “Search” function by saying that overall Windows 7 is pure unadulterated CRAP!!! Too bad MS won’t do refunds on software. It’s back to WinXP SP3 for me. I will be doing the C:\format routine….SOON !!!

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DJ Said,
March 15th, 2010 @12:17 pm  

Hi,

I’m the same opinion, the Win7 search is even more bad than the search of XP. My computer stopps working while indexing which needs a very long time.
I deleted all indexes yet and search “per hand” now, which I did my for whole windows life (that works perfect :) ).

For E-Mail search in Outlook I bought the searchtool Lookeen, which works perfect and fast. I can not understand why microsoft is not able to integrate a powerful search function in their OS?!?

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Marton Said,
March 17th, 2010 @8:41 am  

Anyone who says that Windows 7 search is easy surely did not try to use it. I have a folder with nearly 2000 files, and I can’t even find something in the file names. I have tried even searching a term that I was actually seeing on the screen and it keeps returning a “no result”.

I have found no way to actually index those files, altough they are in my library folder, which, from what I understand, should be indexed automatically.
Unfortunatelly it’s my computer PC, so I’ll have to endure that, but I’ll sure install any other search software to do it for me, as Windows seems to decided that searching is not important.

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Marikhen Said,
March 19th, 2010 @3:47 am  

I’m not going to jump on the “you’re joking” bandwagon. I’d rather start a new one, the “you’re lying” bandwagon. I’m not joking, the first and last sentences in this article are utter lies.

As one of the previous posters I found this article as a direct result of trying to find help for issues with Windows 7’s search. My problem is simple. Windows 7’s search is not functional. It will return no results whatsoever. I have a folder with 701 files of which over 400 contain the letter ‘C’ in the name and a search for that letter yields no results.

Likewise I don’t much care for the Indexing feature. I’d love to permanently disable it if I could, and I thought that at some point in the past I had, because regardless of how small the indexing file might be and how marginal the performance hit the indexing might cause I don’t want either of them on my PC. Despite this Windows 7 still insists on indexing folders seemingly at random. Heck, while trying to solve my problem, again, tonight I noticed that a folder that had no business being indexed had been added to the index after I deleted all folders from the index a month ago.

Other people may use it and not have any severe issues but I simply cannot get it to function. I never had that problem with Windows XP’s search engine. The intent of this article, which admittedly contains several factual statements, is as I said earlier, a lie. It was apparently written up by someone who is no more than a “talking head” for Microsoft with no intention of bringing any impartiality to the topic at hand.

What’s more, the fact that it didn’t cover the loss of a dedicated search window where you could tailer your searches via multiple combo boxes and were forced to use a text box in the upper right-hand corner of the window strikes me as proof that this article is also incomplete.

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Warbear Said,
April 18th, 2010 @3:56 pm  

Seriously though, how much did you get paid to write this drivel? Search in the old days, when you could right click a drive and tell it to find *.*mp3* and find EVERY mp3 on the drive quickly, and effectively was a GOOD search function.

Having to spend DAYS training a search tool how to do something, that it MIGHT get right, and MIGHT find the things you want, while taking up more and more resources on your PC to sometimes work….well it’s just plain stupid. As is the person it seems that wrote this article.

MS should have made the search function SIMPLE, not complicated. Speed is worse now, unless I index EVERYTHING, CONSTANTLY, on all my PCs and servers, and even then searches take longer and yield results that make me cringe.

So, how much DID you get paid for this ‘article’?

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L Jay Said,
April 21st, 2010 @10:37 am  

It appears that the bandwagon is getting pretty full. I just wish someone could answer the real question: HOW DO I SEARCH FOR A FILE?

And why can’t I just right click on a folder and select Search?

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dfghj Said,
April 22nd, 2010 @12:08 pm  

it just cannot seem to search my hard drive for .jpeg. wtf? it will find some files in some random place without telling me why it wont look everywhere else. i only want to put all my pics together. how do you screw up a search function so badly?

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hobby16 Said,
April 26th, 2010 @10:55 am  

Yeah, I concur with Scoffer : compared to XP, the W7 Search is not only useless, it’s annoying beyond imagination: searchfilterhost.exe keeps eating CPU resource (just google it) and I bet most people don’t even realise it !

To search for text in files, I use an Editplus’ “search in files” function, which WORKS, contrary to M$’s c**p.

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johnclin Said,
May 4th, 2010 @2:02 pm  

It’s clear that Win7 search isn’t as good as compared to WinXP, and from my few experiences, I concur.

But if people want to stay with Win7, is there something I can recommend for them to try in terms of file search?

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Jason Said,
May 10th, 2010 @7:14 pm  

You can search network files and index network files without having to store it on your computer. This patch will allow you to add network files to the index without having to make them “always available offline”.

There will be a new tab in the Indexing Options menu called “Add UNC Location” and here you can add paths to network folders.

UNCFATPHInstaller.msi

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?DisplayLang=en&FamilyID=f7e981d9-5a3b-4872-a07e-220761e27283

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JK Said,
May 18th, 2010 @9:24 am  

I am joining the bandwagon. Windows 7 Search does not work with network drives, which is all I use. The writer of the article does seem to live in an alternate reality.

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flade Said,
May 24th, 2010 @2:32 pm  

i was afraid that i would read all of this. i cannot function without a search program. i was getting used to some of win7’s features (and quirks) but this is the clincher. it lasted about as long as Vista – about 3 months. back to xp sp3.

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peewee Said,
May 24th, 2010 @5:22 pm  

Thank you guys for clarifying what a relatively unknowledgable computer operator like me was beginning to think was my stupidity. Very reassuraning to note that it isn’t. As many have said, the search facility in 2000 and XP (and maybe even earlier ones…?) was a simple matter of pressing ctrl+F and typing in a suffix or even part of the filename, or text within in the file. And it worked, as far as I remember, without fail. It was one of the bits of the OS I used most often. We have all (maybe….) been parted from large amounts of money for an OS that got rid of a really reliable search facility and replaced it with a joke that cannot find anything at all, on which Outlook Express and even Windows Mail, doesn’t work, and on which the taskbar is infinitely less useful. Oh and by the way, again perhaps it is my own slowness, but is anyone else having the same experience that I am having with Homegroups – to say nothing of all Windows networking since XP (which was no problem). OK I may not be an expert, but I had no trouble before Vista.

What I also want to see is a further response from the joke who wrote the original article that included the phrase ‘Overall, the new search features in Windows 7 are greatly enhanced and let you customize most of the search options. Enjoy!’ Either he is talking crap or we are all stupid. I don’t think we should have to read screenloads of instructions about how to get something to work that used to perfectly well, that we have paid a great deal of money for, and doesn’t do what he says it does when you have turned on the sixpence that he recommends.

I agree with Enrico, when he begs MS to stop shooting itself in the foot. I am not a Microsoft basher at all, and there are obviously many things about 7 that are great, but this is not one of them.

I have a directory in which there is nothing but avis. If I use the search facility to search for avis which that directory actually open in front of me, it finds no avis. If I put a filename in in full, it finds nothing. Give me a break. I have just been examining Ubuntu for the first time, and it looks extremely attractive. Greatly enhanced my a***.

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zlerpster Said,
May 30th, 2010 @6:47 pm  

You’re kidding me, right? I just got a new PC with Windows 7 and I’m trying to RIGHT click and select SEARCH to search an external drive. Windows 7 CAN’T DO THAT? There is no way to search an external or networked drive? Unbelievable.

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Blacklord81 Said,
June 1st, 2010 @1:51 pm  

windwos 7 search wasn’t crippled or anything… you just have to now how to search… well yes is harder now in comparison… but anyway…

for example… if you want to search for the content of a file, just add a “content:” (without quotes) before what to search… so if i want to search a “xxx” inside a file just put in teh search textbox “content:xxx”.
and so on… there are many filters, you just need to know them.
Cheers

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cyrus Said,
June 4th, 2010 @4:06 pm  

Add me to the Train. They took something simple and have made it cryptic, cumbersome and plain faulty. I am amazed there are not people screaming in the media, on the web and on the streets about how terrible the win 7 search is. They were better off not having a search tool than have one that kills so much time.

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qdsys Said,
June 5th, 2010 @12:29 am  

Windows 7 search is a scrap. I tried to index using index option on specified directories and later on try to search files on those specific directories with index turned on, Guess what ? no files appeared even that i tried to put every extension in the index. I tried to search files without index option and it all come out. Anybody has a suggestion? I lost too must time about figuring out how this search option would work

Thank you

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brownce63 Said,
June 5th, 2010 @9:15 pm  

Windows 7 search is a joke!

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Bonesnap Said,
June 9th, 2010 @11:11 am  

I’ve read all the comments and I’ve come to the conclusion you people don’t know what you’re doing. Any of you. Windows 7 search is amazing (as well as Vista’s) and is the primary reason I left XP (not to mention it’s nearly a decade old).

Pretty simple. Hit the Windows Key on your keyboard. Then start typing. Wow, that was hard, wasn’t it?

The search has ALWAYS been able to find what I’ve been looking for. Yes, it returns extra results because it searches within files instead of exclusively file names (I believe there is an option to disable this, but I don’t remember), but it always lists what I was looking for.

I migrated my mother away from XP for this very reason. She doesn’t understand folder structure, so when she needs a file, she has no idea where to find it. In Windows 7, you don’t need to know. You just hit the Windows Key and start typing the file’s name. Voila, it appears without fail every time. She’s never had a problem finding a file and neither have I.

As for you people who name your files cryptically with multiple braces, that’s just stupid. Sorry, but it is.

There’s actually an entire API devoted to Windows Search and the customization is very powerful. Even simple things like putting quotes around your search or file: etc. makes it quite flexible, and for 99% of users, that’s all they need.

If you move from Windows 7 to Mac because of the search, then I can’t help but laugh at you.

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UpsetwithWindows Said,
June 11th, 2010 @6:05 am  

Bonesnap Said, for your simple requirements Windows 7 is all you need. Maybe there is something in that i.e. simple searching but some people want something capable of properly searching for complex matters which is what you use a computer for.

Windows 7 cannot search within files for words or phrases whereas XP can. That is plain stupid. so you are left with a simple search for those who only do simple things. Unfortunately most of the world want to computer to do serious work. Get real Bonesnap Said.

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thunder Said,
June 12th, 2010 @7:25 am  

The Windows 7 search sucks. I cannot believe it. XP is better.

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rmoore Said,
July 7th, 2010 @2:38 pm  

Fatima,

I am not sure exactly what it is that you’re having trouble with but using the Search feature in Windows 7 is easy to do although a bit different than in the past.

You mentioned having 64 books in a folder. I don’t know the name of the folder but let’s call it “Books”. Go ahead and open Windows Explorer by either clicking on the Windows Explorer icon (often located right next to the Start button on the task bar or if your keyboards has a Windows button on it, you can just press the Windows button and the letter E at the same time). One Windows Explorer is open, go to the “Books” folder on the far left side of the screen or whatever the name of your folder containing all your books is called and highlight that folder by just clicking on the folder once. To make sure you’re in the correct place, look at the top of your window and it should show you the full path. Might be something similar to Computer>My Documents>Books or whatever is appropriate for your situation. Once you verify that you are in the right folder, go to the upper right hand corner of the screen and type in a word or phrase that you want to search by. The search field where you’ll be typing should already say “Search Books”. You don’t even have to press Enter. Just start typing and when you finish, Windows will display your search results in the windows on the right side of Windows explorer. If you want to filter your results a bit, the Search field where you type in your search has a drop down box that allows you to search on a date or between a 2 dates or by size. Finally, if this is a search you use often, you may want to save it. You can do this by going to the left side of the Explorer screen at the top of the window and you’ll see Save Search. This allows you to save the search. Hope this helps. If this is not the problem you are having, let me know.

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rmoore Said,
July 11th, 2010 @6:33 pm  

Hey n25philly,

1st, let me give you a link that will give you some insight into Windows 7 search features. The link is:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/files-folders-search

This is a Microsoft site. The video is about 4 minutes long. Regardless of your experience, I bet you’ll pick up something you didn’t know. Be sure and watch the whole video. Another common way to search is to use wildcards. Wildcards have been around since the DOS days and were as handy back then as they are today. The most common wildcards are ? and *. If you do a search on Windows wildcards, you’ll find lots of info on this but essentially, the ? can be used in the place of any single character and the * can take the place of many characters. The main difference between these two is the ? replaces one character only while the * can replace several characters at a time. Finally, Windows offers other search functions such as date, size, name of file, keyword search in the file, etc. When you jump over to email, you can also specify to look for emails with a subject of money from Joe Smith. The library feature of Windows 7 is nice too especially once you understand how it can work for you. Hope this helps.

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